Trump and Putin prepare to meet. Do they both want the same thing?

By Megan Lim,

Courtney Dorning, Mary Louise Kelly

Published August 12, 2025 at 4:07 PM EDT

NPR's Mary Louise Kelly speaks with former Trump national security advisor Ambassador John Bolton about the President's upcoming summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Megan Lim

Courtney Dorning

Courtney Dorning has been a Senior Editor for NPR's All Things Considered since November 2018. In that role, she's the lead editor for the daily show. Dorning is responsible for newsmaker interviews, lead news segments and the small, quirky features that are a hallmark of the network's flagship afternoon magazine program.

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Mary Louise Kelly

Mary Louise Kelly is a co-host of All Things Considered, NPR's award-winning afternoon newsmagazine.

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