Former national security adviser Susan Rice weighs in on Trump-Zelenskyy talks

By Megan Lim,

Mary Louise Kelly, Christopher Intagliata

Published August 18, 2025 at 4:11 PM EDT

NPR's Mary Louise Kelly talks with Susan Rice, national security advisor to President Obama, about today's White House talks between President Trump and President Zelenskyy.

Megan Lim

Mary Louise Kelly

Mary Louise Kelly is a co-host of All Things Considered, NPR's award-winning afternoon newsmagazine.

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Christopher Intagliata

Christopher Intagliata is an editor at All Things Considered, where he writes news and edits interviews with politicians, musicians, restaurant owners, scientists and many of the other voices heard on the air.

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