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Curious stories of coexistence

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Can otters be city dwellers? Are aliens real? Do we have to experience misery to understand happiness? On this episode, we investigate how strange bedfellows can lead to radical realizations. Guests include evolutionary biologist Philip Johns, astrophysicist Avi Loeb and author Laurel Braitman.

This episode was produced by James Delahoussaye, Katie Monteleone, and Harsha Nahata. It was edited by Sanaz Meshkinpour, Rachel Faulkner White and Manoush Zomorodi.

Our production staff at NPR also includes Fiona Geiran, and Matthew Cloutier.

This episode was engineered by Jimmy Keeley, Becky Brown and Zo vanGinhoven.

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