What happens when an economist becomes prime minister?

By Darian Woods,

Anis Heydari, Kate Concannon, Angel Carreras

Published April 9, 2025 at 9:34 AM EDT

Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney speaks at a news conference about the US tariffs on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on April 3, 2025.

Today on the show, we meet Canada's new Prime Minister, economist Mark Carney.

What's it like when your former job — being a non-political banker who decides a country's interest rate — bleeds into your now-political decisions on everything?

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Darian Woods

Darian Woods is a reporter and producer for The Indicator from Planet Money. He blends economics, journalism, and an ear for audio to tell stories that explain the global economy. He's reported on the time the world got together and solved a climate crisis, vaccine intellectual property explained through cake baking, and how Kit Kat bars reveal hidden economic forces.

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Anis Heydari

Kate Concannon

Kate Concannon is the Supervising Senior Editor at The Indicator from Planet Money. She leads this small, collaborative team of hosts, reporters and producers in making sense of crucial, but often complex and confusing, economic news in just 10 minutes a day.

Angel Carreras

Angel Carreras is an assistant producer for The Indicator from Planet Money. He is a Bakersfield-raised, Cal State Long Beach graduate. He previously worked at KCRW, the NPR member station in Los Angeles. He has produced award-winning and character-driven work, with subjects that have included masked puppeteers, mutual aid groups, and community activists.